John McCain said what???

Just listen to that magnetic and charismatic speaker.  Need I say more?  : )

And McCain responds with the word: Horseshit

Obama:

Occidental College - Two years.

Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international

relations.

Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:

University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.

Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:

United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 out of 899 (meaning

that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of his class)

Palin:

Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester

North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study

University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism

Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester

University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most influential nation

in the world?

Ooh I heard it! LOL.

Thanks, R1, for posting the résumes….huge difference, with the Dems quite impressive. I really hope they have a chance….

Is anyone out there going to volunteer? I'd be will to do something, even work at a phone bank. The thought of the Republicans winning scares the crap out of me….

Did McCain said it twice?  or did he say 1 HS and 1 BS???

I received that this morning from a friend wondering if Education was even Important.

Samme…I heard something else too…still not sure what he said, but he reminds me of a 5 yr. old…Did Not! Did Too! Your Mother! :-D Wow, doesn't the Intelligence level just AWE you? :-D

oh dear, what a blooper.. can't wait to hear Jon Stewart do a spin on that one ;-)

Oh, Jon Stewart will definitely have a field day with this one!  I think that will be better than anything out there!  Laughing with Jon is one of the ways to cope with the insanity of this media spun debacle.  As Keith said, Ariela, thanks for the educational backgrounds…never thought to look it up since it was so obvious…

FDLOL!!!!  Oh…  Wait….  it's not really funny at all, is it?  Something more akin to tragedy, the sort of high frozen drama on ancient masks at Epidaurus.   Someone's behavior seems to be erratic and bellicose, not the stuff to lend too much confidence (foreign or domestic) of promising leadership.  Great change is indeed under way.  May Goodness continue to expand and flourish!  Come see, too, another joyous perspective from our own Obama-mama.

Wow is that resume real? That's sad. As for the one hs I don't really care. Anywhere I could get the full debate from last night? With Obama and Mcain?  I say we need someone else to vote for both candidates don't sound all that great.

I know very little about any of the candidates,or politics. 
I know that John McCain was a soldier and a pow ( that must have sucked ),also know he's loaded beyond belief,and conservative,I mean the man says horseshit
Conservative the only thing I have to know. The god thing,no legalized abortions,no universal healthcare,screw the planet,and strangely lacking in sex appeal….maybe that's why they brought in the hot gun toting mama

Obama still feels the little people ;-) smart articulate and yes the sex appeal thingy. 
If I could vote I'd vote Obama,sorta wished he's have chosen Hillary for running mate sigh,but still.

Your link is crystal clear, Keith! OMG, listen to it midway…so clearly he says horseshit x2.

BTW, I received that educational info in email from a good friend, I don't know the accuracy of its statements.
But I believe it!!!

BB: Hilary would not have taken the job, she wanted top dog, and would not have settled for second banana. But she may be a good Secretary of something…she'll be in the cabinet or supreme court perhaps, and will be happier there. VP is just a figurehead here.

Yeah I agree Hillary wouldn’t take the vice president spot she wants the very top not playing second fiddle as a figurehead. As for Obama I’m still not convinced he’d run our country that well.

Watching the debate last night….at times with my eyes closed…

I couldn't tell if it was McPain or Bush talking.
Oh. Bush wasn't there?
You sure?
:-D
More of the same old, same old coming out of McPain's mouth.

I may be unpopular for saying this but … McCain whispered “horseshit” under his breath? Obama would have openly and persistently interrupted instead.  I don't believe either of them so I'm not firmly on either side, as of yet.  But, personally, I don't mind if McCain is human enough to utter the word “horseshit” under his breath.  I probably muttered it a few times myself, to both of them.

I am sorry but Obama is clearly the one. My husband  and I check the candidates out extensively. The education of al the candiates is quite correct. To people who say Horse sh is ok-Find videos where McCain is speaking to POW wives, gets angry & repeately uses the F word. He aso used the F word to a female reporter on a plane. He uses this language in the Senate all the time. My husband is a Vietnam Combat vet. Look for Vietnam Vets against McCain.
For anyone who saw some of McCain's interview abot being a POW-they mention his first wife and quicky go to his second wife. His first wife was in a car accident-she gained weight-he left her.

Cindy - good points and I hear you.  I remain unmoved by the whispered “horseshit” however.  Anyone have a link to the POW video? That's a horse of a different color.

I just checked-go to Vietnam Veterans against John McCain-a few videos.

http://tickleawakeningsport.gaia.com/blog/2008/9/is_it_time_for_an_american_revolution

This 'debate' gets a lot of coverage here in the UK too, to be honest I was getting bored with it all, everyday the same things pretty much, but of late it seems to have been 'spiced up'. good stuff, live tv, a possible future president losing his cool, how cool. The best thing to come out of this so far for me has to be this music remix though. And lest us not forget what moments Bush Gave Us in his time.

When all is said and done though, every soul that works this planet is on a deeper level connected to all, and so we should have compassion rather than dislike.

However the presidency may have already been decided and all this debate is just a smokescreen for something more sinister going on in the background… but fear not because Love Always Wins!

Dear Keith, Namaste.
I am sorry my friend, you have “Idealized” Obama I suppose as a very Honest man and a Nice dude from Chicago, who is supposedly fighting for our Rights– Wait a second– did you watch the Debate? I was reminded of “George W Bush, whenever Obama spoke of “Osama Bin laden” That poor old Kidney failed “Terrorist” is dead. He was killed by the Ex Chief of ISI (Inter Services Intelligence of Pakjistan) and thats what Benazir Bhutto exposed about this weak alliance between Pakistan and other countries to its people and the CIA did a “Number on her, exactly the same way as they did on Zia Ul Haque” Look at the Marriot Hotel bombing–it has a CIA stamp all over it. It is not some Islamic radical doing it. I am no sympathizer, Delhi was Bombed by Some Paki group, Ahmedabad was Bombed, Bangalore was, Mumbai was. But, I see a GAME very clearly being played by MAJOR govts of the world. We definitely need a Revolution. Obama is either NAIVE about Politics and Politicians or he is himself “Inside that Cabal–a  Created Opposition”–in other words a Ruse. He has no IDEA of Finance and Budgets, when he says “I will Create More Jobs in US”, when he is suggesting he will Penalize all Corporations by Increasing their taxes…Ever calculated how much Overheads will Increase for all those? and How will the Employment sector be effected? Plus if he is going to Increase Taxes for Billionaires and Reduce taxes for Middle class, do you think he can Balance a Budget? Ridiculous “Financial Skill there”
That would be a World wide Disaster.
Calculate what he is saying, I don't like McCain, but he at least is a Seasoned campaigner, better of the two available. Love n Light
SPUNDANA.

No idealization here, opinion and intense scrutiny of facts. There is no debate, Obama is the leader for the new energy coming to the planet. McCain is old energy and if he wasn't enough reason not to vote, then look at the woman he picked as a heartbeat away from “leading”.She is so verklempt and unable to answer any questions that she looks like a 6th grader. And anyone who charges rape viCtims for a damn rape kit, it not someone who “hockey moms” can seriously support. Opiates for the masses are what she supports!

Everyone has their opinions of course, and it is not the word horseshit that is troublsome, it is the whole attitude that reeks of patronization. He clearly feels complelled to “scold” Obama, instead of focusing on the issues.

I hate politics, but I will not sit down on this one. It is Obama, or moving to Canada. I think the country will be at war with everyone otherwise…McCain and Palin are gun toters. 

BUT…EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR PERSONAL OPINION…AND THIS IS MINE.

Unbelievable! If he has no control over his vocabulary, what hope is there?

It is a very sad event to see a man who went though what John McCain did to be so quickly lost in anger and act out in such a manner. Someone needs to tell him that they only cell he is in, is one he keeps putting himself in, and though I am not an American, if he has not learned by all that he went through how to resist  anger, then it is likely the only thing remaining no matter how well disguised from the present opponent he still struggles against the oldest.
Thanks

This is the issue, Just Me. He was a Vietnam Vet like my husband; many vets suffer from Post Traumatic Stress, (PTSD). Certainly being a POW would increase the problem. The people in the Senate do not want to work with him because of his temper. You see him in the forefront because he is running for president; is everyone aware that he is not on any committee? Sarah Palin & McCain are scary people to be running a country that is already in trouble.  I agree with the person who said he could start wars with everyone!

I sat up until midnight clicking on all of the links and then had nightmares all night long of war and chaos.  No wonder I waited until the last hour to get informed.

http://killtown.911review.org/wtc7.html
One more link to click, Ayla. Then I am done. Please see this. It is simply Horrifying how these Bastards are, who are just AFTER Money, Money and Money.. UTTER Greed.
Sorry about my French.
PeacefulSPirit_JoyfulSoul

The Democrats and Republicans are two contrived faces/sides to the same coin.

It's all a GAME of contrived and “Manufactured Opposition”, divide and conquer, distract and manipuate.

I heard obama on TV today talking about this Bailout just like Bush, using scare tactics, etc, saying anything to get us to go along with the largest SYSTEMATIC FLEECING of american citizens in history.

My suggestion is, we find a 3rd party candidate who is KEEN to these issues, the UNDERLYING issues, that is the Federal Reserve being able to manipulate booms and depressions using our money supply, in CAHOOTS with the high rollers (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, etc) on Wall Street to DEVALUE our dollar BEFORE the Fed chokes th money supply. The RESULT? A DEPRESSION. WAKE UP PEOPLE.

We need to wake up now or we will wake up later, when it is too late, and the agents of greed have taken all of our property and liberty.

I know this doesn't go with the flow as much I saw all this late but I agree with Spundana Obama doesn't even seem able to run this country financially.  He looks more like a greenhorn to me that's playing to what people want to hear.  It's a race of the lesser of two evils and I'll choose McCain as unpopular as that may be.  And yes the stock marcket is bad news. Hopefully we will avoid a great depression two. 

Hey Cindy,
  When you then see him within the influence of the self-serving religious right of his political party it truely makes me wonder. Is he part of the party or merely someone who has put himself back to a place of absolute beliefs and apocalyptic outcomes. No wonder he appears as a maverick at times, breaking out against the machine that  he continues to allow to recapture him claiming all the while it will set him free.
It is a disheartening existence, no doubt filled with fear, worry and the constant watch against impending doom, a reality I don't believe the founding fathers of Freedom and Liberty for all intended, but can be resown because of those same principals.

Politicians and Fear? Nah, they FEAR nothing thats why they can DO things, you and I can't ever go near about.
Here are a few suggestions, or names of people to Research and research thoroughly
Phillip Zelikow
DynCorp
Raytheon
Maurice Greenberg–He has benefitted a lot from all Defence contracts, Guess how much?
Warren Buffet–YES, Thise 36 Billion Rich man was playing Golf with the likes of GWBUSH in his Course in Omaha, Nebraska, when Bush's plane took off from Florida after that School show, goat's story and then Bush played Golf there and they all watched the repeat broadcasts of the WTC Collapse. Pathetic.
I suspect one guy, Thomas Kean, why was he made the 9/11 Chairman? and he came across as if he is HONESTLY questioning the Govt version. But why was he allowing Ommisions and Commisions from the Final draft of the report? Phillip Zelikow controlled that.
But who masterminded the 9/11 and Post 9/11 War scenarios? Wow, this name is far worse than Adolf Hitler– No, bad guess, it is not Cheney–it is Jerome Hauer. Research him, folks.
Then of course the infamous Carlyle Group– Bush Sr, was their advisor. Other Billionaires of their team included those Seven Jewish Billionaires whom Putin jailed and confiscated the Oil rigs from them, as Russia's National property.
Rubestein, Carlucci, Brother and a Son of Osama Bin Laden, James baker and Bush Sr make up this group.
USA has spent over a trillion in the two “Supposedly Dirty looking wars” to our eyes. Where does all this money go? It never leaves this country–It only enroutes Paper, Bank Transfers. Thats why, folks–Most of the FBI Deputy Directors and Directors get a job in BANKS< as Chairpersons or CEOs and ONE real HERO, John O'Neil is sent to his death to the WTC as Security chief after all the hard work he did to try and Capture Osama Bin LAden, he was deliberately SLOWED down by Bodine, Albright and others and Subsequently was facing charges of criminal conspiracy himself for a Mysterious loss of a Suitcase containing classified documents. Wow, Then who got him, the Job in the WTC to begin that new work on Sept 10th? Good guess– Jerome Hauer.
Who is Hauer? What are his specialities? MAIN thing–Controlled Demolition of Buildings and Bio-terror, he was the guy who tipped off the Entire world “If you are attacked by Anthrax, then CIPRA must be the Antidote” on 9/11 and within 20 Minutes of the first Plane attacking the WTC, he was on National TV channels, saying “These Buildings will soon collapse due to Heat”
CIA lost all of its files in WTC 7, where Haur also operated from, Why was that done at 17:20? they wanted to make sure all Evidence was destroyed.
Good job Rudy Juilliani.
Hahahaha.
Folks wake up, this FALSE Govt thatw e see must Go,a nd Let us have the Hidden Govt rule us, from the Front. Let us be able to hold them Accountable.

Those guys need to be put in F'n jail for the CRIMES they have– and still are committing against America and the world.

The writers and founders of the American Constitution, NEVER INTENDED to have a federal government this strong, because in their wisdom, they KNEW that with the centralization of power comes the habit of corruption. This is seen with the ENTIRE system, it's broken, and this is CLEAR. We are given FALSE choices with “manufactured opposition” two bogus parties with candidates to serve their high paying overlords. Why is it that both parties supported this recent bill, yet 80% of their CONSTITUENTS didn't? Do you honestly believe that someone as stupid as Bush, as SINISTER as McCain and NIEVE as Obama really have a clue/have our best interests in mind? NO! If they DID, they would be doing something about the systematic fleecing of the middle class in this country, but they don't. If you look at their voting records they are “C” Class at best… we lost the “best” candidate in Ron Paul or by a stretch even Hillary Clinton (but I still doubt the ethics of the Clintons).
ANYWAY. WAKE UP BEFORE we are FLEECED of all our property. WE HAVE the power within ourselves to tell this government, “YOU ARE THE VILLIANS here, and ONLY you for this financial mess, with your MEDDLING, AND WE AREN'T GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!”

We should have no parties.
No electoral college.
If oil was not always showing its ugly head, things would be different.
I am older; I remember no TV, (at least in our home)-a candidate did not have the exposure and did not spend all this money on campaign ads. (Obama takes donations only)
Polisi's speech caused at least 12  negative votes.
They are all “babies”-they want things THEIR way.
We have to let countries like China buy our buildings, etc.  An American beer company staple (I do not even drink beer) has been bought out by a foreign country. I am far from being prejuiice, but should everything be bought out?
We ARE a greedy country.

LOOK at What these MF's do to OUR RIGHTS!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4762159260759486531&ei=TSngSP2XBIHCjgL1kJCcBg&q=hacking+democracy

WATCH AND OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES!!!

I agree all this political stuff is a mess I didn't know all that about 9/11 that's very interesting. Does anyone have any idea what the truth is anymore?

TRUTH is, that we must ACT. That is the truth. We cannot sleep and be complaisant anymore. Educate yourself about:

1. What Madison and Jefferson MEANT when they had a hand in creating this country, and how the current manifestation is a joke that craps on EVERYTHING they believed in,

2. The banking and Federal Reserve System, how it is corrupt to the core,

3. The Real issues, like WHY the mortgage crisis happened in the first place. Look to how things are done and how determine the worthiness of “assets” on the market.

4. Talk to everyone about this. Tell them that the peaceful revolution has started, the revolution of LOVE and ETHICS and greed will have no place in the world we are creating.

check this link for a history of banking and the federal reserve:

http://privateattorneygeneral.us/HISTORY—Federal-Reserve,-Banking-System,-etc.php

copy/paste if it doesnt' work

Oh, and about 9/11… I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that, hijackers, some of whom were terrible pilots as per their instructors could find the WTC or the pentagon without radio contact from a control tower. Also the fact that 1 hour passed while 4 planes went awry. And the fact that 4 Raytheon (A company that makes DRONES, folks) people died that day on 2 different planes, along with Army, Navy Guys. Oh and that John O' Neil, the world's foremost expert on Osama Bin Laden, suddenly took a civilian job at the WTC on 9/10/01 and DIED in the following carnage the next day.

Until he resigned in August of 2001, John O’Neill was the director of counterterrorism for the FBI’s New York office, not far from the WTC. O’Neill investigated the bombings of the World Trade Centre in 1993, a US base in Saudi Arabia in 1996, the US embassies in Nairobi and Dar-Es-Salaam in 1998, and the USS Cole last year.
In the course of these investigations, he became one of the world’s top experts on Osama Bin Laden and Al Quada, determined to hunt Bin Laden and his followers down and bring them to justice. Those who worked with him said he “lived, breathed and ate terrorism.” A scrappy, stubborn Irishman with a quick temper, a fondness for the ladies, and a reputation for being brutally blunt on some occasions, and pushy on others, O’Neill was often frustrated by the button-down boundaries of the modern FBI. But he was one of the best sleuths the agency had – as anyone who worked with him would be quick to acknowledge. U.S. attorney Mary Jo White says this of O’Neill:: “John went at it comprehensively, yielding things from people in London or people in Yemen we never otherwise would have gotten.” Another admirer, former FBI director Louis Freeh remembers O’Neill as ” the paramount, most knowledgeable agent we had in the FBI, probably in the government, with respect to counterintelligence matters.”
After years of investigating OBL and Al Quada, O’Neill came to the conclusion that “All the answers, everything needed to dismantle Osama bin Laden’s organization can be found in Saudi Arabia.” That conviction went with him to his grave. Unfortunately for O’Neill and 3,000 other men and women, at every turn after January 2001, the Bush administration blocked the efforts of the “most knowledgeable agent it had” to investigate Saudi ties to Bin Laden.
O’Neill saw through Bush from the start and by the summer of 2001 declared that the main obstacles to investigating Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil corporate interests and the role Saudi Arabia played in furthering those interests. Bush not only thwarted an FBI investigation of the bin Laden family, he kept the specific nature of his family’s business ties to the Bin Ladens as secret as Cheney’s energy task force list. A few disturbing facts are known, however. For example, Bin Ladens were investors in the Carlyle Group, the secretive energy-and-arms corporation cofounded by George Bush, Sr.. Carlyle was earlier reputed to have been a major stakeholder in Central Asian oil interests, though they have, not surprisingly, dropped from the foreground in the past year. Bin Laden money was also sunk into George W. Bush’s first oil companies. A Bin Laden was involved in BioPort, the company that G.W. Bush granted a federal contract for producing anthrax vaccine, even though the company had failed three FDA inspections. It is hard to imagine, given this cozy history, that O’Neill had much use for the Bush clan. It must have truly enraged him when he learned (as he inevitably must have, given his position inside the intelligence grapevine) that Osama bin Laden had flown to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by local CIA agent Larry Mitchell on July 12. But let’s backtrack to the year before 9/11, back to the fall of 2000.

Editor’s note, 3/10/2003: CNN has reported that Barbara Bodine, mentioned in the next section of this article, will be “administering” central Iraq once the forthcoming “war” is over.
In October of 2000, after entering the Port of Aden off the coast of Yemen, the USS Cole was hit by suicide bomber. The blast killed 17 and injured 35 Americans. O’Neill was sent over to investigate, as head of the FBI team. Accompanying O’Neill to Yemen were over 100 FBI agents, laboratory experts and forensics specialists, as well as FBI Director Louis J. Freeh. From the earliest moments of the investigation, O’Neill was sure Bin Laden was responsible. However, from the start, his efforts to work the case were sabotaged by US ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine. Bodine refused to cooperate in the investigation or to encourage Yemenis to cooperate. Despite repeated death threats against agents, she refused to allow them to carry the type of weapons O’Neill considered adequate. O’Neill reportedly called Louis Freeh in the middle of the night once expressing anxiety about the safety of his men. The clash between O’Neill and Bodine went steadily from bad to worse, peaking when Bodine publicly called O’Neill a liar. Incredibly, Bodine claimed that through her actions, she was merely trying to keep diplomatic relations running smoothly.
But a look at Ms. Bodine’s history suggests a very different motivation. Throughout her career, Barbara Bodine has served primarily under rightwing old boys and in areas where the oil interests of said old boys are being furthered. Under Reagan, she served as Deputy Principle Officer in Baghdad, Iraq. Under Bush, Sr., she served as Deputy Chief of Mission in Kuwait and was there during the Gulf War. She has also worked for Bob Dole, and far more ominously, for Henry Kissinger. So, in 2000 we find her in Yemen, and though a Clinton appointee, impeding the Clinton administration’s efforts to conduct an investigation of a crime of terrorism in which the chief suspect is the son of a Bush family business associate.
What makes Bodine’s actions toward O’Neill particularly indefensible is that there is credible evidence that she herself was to blame, at least in part, for the Cole disaster. Kie Fallis, a Defense Intelligence Agency counterterrorism analyst, had issued a report before the disaster, warning of the danger of just such an attack in Yemen. As it turned out, the report was suppressed by senior DIA officials, and by Bodine and Gen. Anthony Zinn, who decided to allow the Cole to enter the Port under the lowest grade of security permitted in the Middle East – though they were both aware of the warning. Fallis quit in protest the day after the bombing.
The report Fallis refers to was “officially” issued six hours after the attack by the NSA. The report said terrorists were known to be actively engaged in “operational planning” for an attack and had traveled to Dubai and Beirut in preparation for this attack. Yet, on Oct 29, senior intelligence officials issued a statement claiming that the warnings they had received were too vague to have justified issuing a stronger alert. Sound familiar?
The Clinton administration intervened in the investigation, and an arrangement was made that at least made it possible for agents to question suspects (thanks to Bodine, even this had been impossible before). O’Neill returned to the States for the holidays. By that time, Bush had succeeded in pulling off the theft of the presidency. O’Neill was barred from returning to Yemen to continue his investigation. Shortly after he returned, while attending a seminar in Tampa, O’Neill’s briefcase, which contained some sensitive papers, was stolen. Although the briefcase was found intact shortly afterward, with only a cigar lighter missing, the incident later proved to be something much more than a petty theft, as you shall see.
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Updates “CIA-takeover by NSA/NRO/NGA clan”
Hayden wants to finalize privatized Star Wars Program plus Trailblazer and their sub projects under federal law

Hayden may favor eavesdropping law changes: Durbin
Wed May 10, 2006

Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, President George W. Bush’s nominee for CIA director and architect of his domestic spying program, appears to favor changes in federal law that would allow judicial oversight of the program, a Democratic lawmaker and his staff said on Wednesday.

Sen. Richard Durbin, the Illinois Democrat, said Hayden told him in a private meeting he was concerned when he set up the highly secretive program that approaching Congress could reveal tactics, techniques and procedures used by U.S. intelligence to track al Qaeda suspects…

…Hayden expressed a willingness to consider legislation that would put the NSA program “as it exists now” under federal law…
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http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_3802661
@2006, The Washington Post
05/09/2006

“…Congressional defenders of the CIA have questioned whether it is proper for the agency to be headed by an active-duty senior military officer. This is a red herring. Not only has Gen. Hayden spent most of his career in intelligence work, but he has also strongly supported Mr. Negroponte’s attempt to exercise authority over the NSA and other Pentagon intelligence agencies, over the stiff resistance resistance of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

There are legitimate reasons for concern about the Pentagon’s aggressive expansion of its intelligence operations, but Gen. Hayden’s appointment will mean increased clout for the DNI, not the DOD…”
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US zaps space baddies
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006200796,00.html
Wednesday, May 10, 2006

…AMERICA is secretly working on a RAY GUN to destroy enemy spacecraft, it was revealed yesterday.

President Bush has given the go-ahead to create the weapon to zap satellites in orbit.

Laser experiments are being carried out in the New Mexico desert…
…The US military is spending around £11million this year on the laser weapon research…

A military official at the Pentagon told the New York Times that the US needed to protect its satellites against potential attacks in the years and decades ahead.

He said: “The White House wants us to do space defence. We need to protect our assets in orbit.”

Laser work has previously been hidden in a budget category that paid for a range of space activities.

…But it was revealed this year when moved to a new heading, “Advanced Weapons Technology”.

..In January 2001, a commission led by Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned that America faced a potential Pearl Harbour in space and called for an arsenal of space weapons…

Flashback:
May 18, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/ckz7f (nytimes.com)
Air Force Seeks Bush’s Approval for Space Weapons Programs

“…The Air Force, saying it must secure space to protect the nation from attack, is seeking President Bush’s approval of a national-security directive that could move the United States closer to fielding offensive and defensive space weapons, according to White House and Air Force officials…

…In 2002, after weighing the report of the Rumsfeld space commission, President Bush withdrew from the 30-year-old Antiballistic Missile Treaty, which banned space-based weapons….

…A new Air Force strategy, Global Strike, calls for a military space plane carrying precision-guided weapons armed with a half-ton of munitions. General Lord told Congress last month that Global Strike would be “an incredible capability” to destroy command centers or missile bases “anywhere in the world.”

Arms Control Today May 2006
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2006_05/globalstrike.asp

“…Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy Peter Flory said the Pentagon takes this concern “very seriously.”

…Claiming that Russia is the sole country with the current capability to detect and respond rapidly to a ballistic missile launch, Flory argued that “the Russians will know very quickly as they have all the way through the Cold War and up to today what the trajectory is and where the impact points will be.”..

Flashback:
Global Strike Task Force
Aerospace Power Journal - Spring 2001
21 February 01
Gen John P. Jumper, USAF
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj01/spr01/jumper.htm

(Jumper is commander, Headquarters Air Combat Command, Langley AFB, Virginia. )

“…Today, we stand on the brink of technological advances that can prompt a new concept of aerospace power employment. Stealth applied to bombers and maneuverable fighters, all-weather precision-guided munitions (PGM), and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) …

Conclusion

…Decades ago the Luftwaffe demonstrated to the world the cost of failing to honor change.

The GSTF provides the nation a new capability—one that maximizes current systems and technologies and leverages their potential through innovative CONOPS. In sum, GSTF is a rapid-reaction, leading-edge, power- projection concept that will deliver massive around-the-clock firepower. ..

Global Strike Task Force
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usaf/gstf.htm

…in early 2001 Gen. John Jumper, commander, Headquarters Air Combat Command, unveiled an innovative new concept: Global Strike Task Force…
It’s the Air Force’s contribution to the nation’s kick-down-the-door force for the new century.

It will dominate the air, the first requirement for modern warfare, and take out enemy assets that threaten a U.S. deployment…

…Key to the follow-on forces will be the Joint Strike Fighter, expected to join U.S. forces in 2011…

..In the end, Global Strike Task Force is a leading edge, joint power-projection concept that fits into the air expeditionary force construct, and provides the capability to respond rapidly with massive, around-the-clock firepower…

High Energy Laser Systems Test Facility
http://helstf-www.wsmr.army.mil/

The High Energy Laser Systems Test Facility (HELSTF) is the ideal choice to host exploration of future laser technologies. Appointed the US Army Space and Missile Defense Command’s (SMDC) “Directed Energy Center for Test and Evaluation,” HELSTF boasts a unique infrastructure with extensive capabilities for ground-based directed energy testing and evaluation.

Located on White Sands Missile Range, in southern New Mexico, HELSTF has access to 3,200 square miles of controlled land and 7,000 square miles of controlled air space in which to conduct live fire, lethality, and vulnerability testing, as well as laser/material interactions.

http://helstf-www.wsmr.army.mil/his.htm
1991, the Laser Demonstration Device (LDD), a continuous wave chemical laser, was installed at the HELSTF facility.

http://helstf-www.wsmr.army.mil/ sys.htm
Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL):
The world’s first laser weapon system developed for deployment. Testing began in 1999.

(ed: the link above relocated to TRW,
a hyperlink wasn’t allowed.
I therefore didn’t hardlink to protect this site
against monitor harrassment.
I recommend to use imagshack instead of direct image links!)

http://www.defense-update.com/directory/THEL.htm
Mobile / Tactical High Energy Laser

Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL) THEL, was developed by TRW Inc. under a $89 million contract.

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THEL / MTHEL Operational Scenario

The Tactical High Energy Laser uses a high-energy, deuterium fluoride chemical laser to protect against attack by short range unguided (ballistic flying) rockets.

…Northrop Grumman proposed to use “relocatable” THEL systems to counter mortar and rocket threats on US military facilities in Iraq. Since funding for the MTHEL program was cut in 2004, such system may not be available for deployment in the near future…

Hayden and the NSA- the most ignored “9/11 connection”/Foggo-GossGate

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From this point on out, incidents, actions, and decisions become so complex and interwoven that a chronology seems the best way to present the information.

. CHRONOLOGY LATE JANUARY 2001 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 11 2001

Late January: Within 10 days of being sworn in until a few weeks before 9/11, Bush becomes preoccupied – obsessed, some have whispered – with trying to cut a deal with the Taliban that would make Afghanistan a new playground for American oil interests. The game plan involved swiping the oil-rich Caspian region from Russian control – proving just how loyal Bush is to his “soul mates” (Putin). From January through August, a time during which he felt sure he could cajole or pressure the Taliban into playing ball, Bush did not consider the Afghan religious despots “evil.” In fact, he is reported to have described their repressive regime “as a source of stability in Central Asia” that would provide the ideal environment for the construction of an oil pipeline

February 2001: In a masterpiece of conflicting signals, Bush, after expressing interest in negotiations, orders the Taliban government offices in U.S. closed. The Taliban responds by saying it might be willing to turn over Osama Bin Laden

March 2001: Laila Helms, daughter of former CIA director Richard Helms, brings one of Mullah Omar’s advisors, Sayed Hashimi to Washington. During that visit, Hashimi meets with the directorate of Central Intelligence at the CIA and the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department. At one meeting, says Helms, Hashami proposes that the Taliban would be willing to hold bin Laden in one location long enough for the U.S. to locate and destroy him. However, this offer is refused by the Bush administration.

April through August: one warning after another of terrorists attack directed against the U.S. come into the Bush administration, from the UK, Russia, Egypt, Israel, France, Germany, and Russia.

Early May: FBI director Louis Freeh, after being the subject of an intensive rightwing smear campaign (see various NewsMax stories as prime samples) quits – or, more accurately, is forced out.

May: Bush gives Taliban $43 million in what is reported to be a “pot sweetening deal”

June: Freeh now gone, the last of the FBI agents investigating the Cole are suddenly pulled out of Yemen, ostensibly because of the lack of progress and danger.

June: O’Neill meets with French intelligence expert Jean-Charles Brisard in Paris and expresses his frustration at the Bush administration. He tells Brisard he believes the key to making headway against terrorism lies in Saudi Arabia, but that oil interests lie in the way of any serious investigation.
Brisard and his associate Guillaume Dasquié, an intelligence analyst and the editor of Intelligence Online, dedicated their book “Bin Laden: the Forbidden Truth” (released in France in November 2001) to O’Neill. The book has been vigorously avoided by U.S. publishers and everyone in the mainstream U.S. press except Paula Zahn, who has presented excerpts of it.

July: Francesc Vendrell and Tom Simmons (former ambassador to Pakistan)meet with Taliban in Berlin on Bush administration’s behalf. A deal that offers a coalition government and a pipeline is proposed to the Taliban. When Tom Simmons threatens the Taliban with military action as alternative to not accepting the deal, the Taliban reps storm out of meetings.

July: Possibly as a way to mollify the Taliban, Bush directs FBI to back off Osama Bin Laden

July 6: In response to public pressure, the FBI is sent back to Yemen, but O’Neill is told he is barred from entering the country.

July 10: ‘An FBI agent named Kenneth Williams who is based in Phoenix AZ sends a memo to John O’Neill that he suspected an OBL hijacker in training was taking flight lessons at a local flight school. The memo never gets further than whoever O’Neill transmitted it to. And, knowing O’Neill’s history, there is no doubt the info was transmitted.

July 12: Osama bin Laden receives treatment at an American hospital in Dubai and is visited by CIA agent Larry Mitchell

July: O’Neill meets again with French intelligence analyst Brisard, this time in NYC. He again expresses frustration at Bush’s refusal to pursue OBL or Saudi terrorist ties seriously. It is absolutely certain that O’Neill by now realized that even the memo from Williams would not be followed up on.

First week of August: Christina Rocca, director of Asian affairs at the State Department, meets the Taliban ambassador in Islamabad to reopen negotiations. Her message from Bush according to intelligence reports repeated in Brisard and Dasquie’s book. “Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs.” This offer is refused.

August 6: The most serious terrorist attack warning is delivered to Bush. At this point, it should have been clear to the Bush that, having just four days before threatened the Taliban with military action, there would be a very good chance that something serious might happen, perhaps in the nature of a preemptive strike. Yet it is at this point that Bush decides against taking serious action on the threats.
WHY?
This is a president who has just delivered an ultimatum to the Taliban, yet has no plausible pretext for “carpeting” Afghanistan with bombs. This is also a president whose approval ratings have sunk to below 50% who needs something BIG to pull them back up. And there on his desk is an opportunity for his problems to be solved

. Early August: Dick Clarke, the president’s terrorism czar at the National Security Council, tells O’Neill he would like to put his name is as his successor. “It would be a powerful position,” fellow agent Barry Mawn says. “That person would have direct contact with the FBI and turn around and influence top Cabinet people, and possibly even the president.”

Mid-August: A flight school in Minnesota flight reports Zacharias Missouri to the local FBI office after Missouri requested training in how to fly a jet, but not in how to land or take off. Although Moussaoui is arrested, agents did not search his computer and thus missed vital clues.

August 19: New York Times reports that O’Neill is suddenly under investigation for the “brief case incident.” Tom Pickard, second in command at FBI tells O’Neill he can pretty much kiss the promotion chance goodbye. It is clear O’Neill, like Freeh, is being squeezed out. “Friends of O’Neill have said that Pickard, who was very cozy with Ashcroft and the Bush team, acted as the number one road block to O’Neill’s efforts to progress in the agency at this time. After Sept. 11, Pickard, who, unlike O’Neill and Freeh, had NO experience invetsigating terrorism (his speciality was white collar crime) was placed in charge of the Sept. 11 investigation and also the anthrax investigation. In November, Pickard retired.”

Late August: O’Neill quits the FBI

Early Sept.: O’Neill takes a job as head of security for the WTC. He mentions to friends in New York that he fully expects the building to be targeted by terrorists in the future.

September 7: The CIA’s Promis program begins picking up unusual trading activity for United and American Airlines.

September 11: On O’Neill’s second day of work on the 34th floor, the WTC is hit by the first plane. O’Neill makes it out of the building safely, calls his son to say he is OK,. then goes into the other tower to help guide those still inside to safety. Minutes later, O’Neill, along with hundreds of others, is dead, killed by the terrorist the Bush administration refused to allow him to pursue to the best of his ability.

History will be kind to John O’Neill. It will not be kind to George W. Bush.

© 2002, Cheryl Seal
Cheryl may be contacted at cherylseal@hotmail.com.

This Blog of mine was written Long back, on my yahoo 360 page: 15th April 2007 to be precise. Read on.
Posted on Apr 15th, 2007 by peacefulspirit_joyfulsoul_bliss

(This particular reply is actually based on the content of what an internet friend wrote about the word Dubia or Dubya..assigned as a nickname to GWB)

Well, conspiracy theorists have come very strongly against this Presidency and especially the roles played by Cheney and Rums in “Orchestrating” the War on Terror “Business”–One documentary says “Each soldier of the allied forces goes for a Bag of laundry everyday which costs the tax payers' money to the tune of 100 Dollars per bag, which directly goes to a Firm named Halliburton,”

The other interesting theory came out about the Demolition of the Buildings itself–not only the Twin Towers, but also the “Wing of Pentagon” where some say it was a Deliberate Missile hit to Destroy any evidence that could have landed into the hands of Honest officers even inside this CABAL of people in the US govt who are causing Mass Murder in Iraq.
Of all the people, Charlie Sheen (Platoon fame), has brought about an interesting theory about the conspiracies itself. Everybody has contributed to the 'Act of Treason” and not TError by Al Queda, right from Gore Vidal to Noam Chomsky to Keith Olbermann.
You can watch a number of Videos as evidence that the “MEn in Black Hearts” who govern this US govt are indeed of very highly questionable Characters.
Not only this, the CIA and others have openly saidto the authorities that 'We see a Possible nexus between Osama Bin laden and Musharraf” and Musharraf actually wired the 100,000 usd just days before the WTC attacks to Mohammed Ata— Question here would be – Had anyone heard this name before 9/11? Like the Americans created a Zarkawi in Iraq much before they entered into what they call it 'War Zone?”
If I want to create a Conspiracy theory, the best would be :-
” All those Planes were flown into those targets by trained CIA agents dressed up as Islamic Fundoo Terrorists” But then how about the Passengers who were genuine if any, on that Fatal day?
In this documentary prof Griffin, of madison Univ, says very clearly “As per the laws of Physics and the history of Steel oriented buildings, that were or are as Tall as WTC, there has been NOT a single time it has happened that the building went down due to excessive heat or One Plane hitting a Building apiece, while they were constructed to withstand Fifty such plane hits at once”
As time goes by one thing becomes very much evident, Americans don't get this.
“The constant FEAR Psychosis created by the USA govt to keep their own people roped in Conspiracies is nothing but a Clever tactic to keep them in Ambiguity about the real nature of Governance”
But, make no mistake, Osama Bin Laden and the kind are also driven by an inherent force– called the force of ” Trying to be remembered as a Modern Day Prophet Mohammed”
Nothing can stop them, it has all been scripted by them, and we can merely watch, debate and drown in the aftermath.
Most of the Americans don't even get it, that just as the Insurance Giants have this wonderful country held at ransom, the same way, the Rich sheikhs have all the Money power held at Ransom, the same way as Jewish Rich brackets of people HOLD all the banks together in the entire world.

Now, conspiracy theories apart, Is there one indication that George W Bush is ''Such a brilliant man” to connive such a Brilliant network of people from all Cultures world over?” I doubt it. Americans don't even understand the ''Contradiction” they provide for the same man. “If one is an Idiot, then that person can't be as Brilliant as they are portraying the betrayal of the nation to be, by their President” I have watched the videos of Keith Olberman, just as he keeps asking questions, those, of which he probably already knows the answers, I am only amazed at one thing ” 9/11 happened Seven years ago, many thousands of lives changed on that one day…but American public have been fooled further to keep living in that Tragic-day's events over and over, by the Media” If this kind of an event had occurred in India, –which has many times– then the public would have immediately put it behind them, with a Clear thought– ” This happened just as it was supposed to have happened…let us be careful in Future and Choose our leaders to the best of our abilities and forget the “Outcome”
Or have non attachment to Results.

I have seen the videos of David Icke, however brilliant a man he might be, all these theories of Reptoids, Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, secret Societies etc are just 'Fiction' and very few facts in there, including the “Illuminati” This has succeeded only because most of the American people live most of their lives in accordance to what is shown in the ''Movies”, but Movies are not made necessarily based on Real life-stories.
Bottom-line is, American public don't even know the terrains of Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, to actually know the nature of Al Queda, Lashkar E Toiba, ISI(Inter service Intelligence–Pakistani), Jaish-E-Mohammed ” Network of Terrorists.

Fanatics have ruled this world many times, right from Alexander's time. History might change these Fanatics of today into ''George W Bush, the Great” –The World Conquerer as well. But we have also seen Nurembergs happen. So hopefully people will open their eyes before it is too late.
Who knows?
Much love n Light,
Jagan Ramamoorthy
Los Angeles